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In 2003 some 72% of Americans fully supported the Abandoning of the Missions and those Sent to Accomplish so extremely Quickly after 9/11!!

At least some 95%, if not more as less then 1% serve them, not only still support the, just below, total lack of Sacrifice, they ran from any and all Accountability and left everything still on the table to be continually used if the political/military want was still in play in future executive/legislative wants!!
DeJa-Vu: “With no shared sacrifices being asked of civilians after Sept. 11", Decades and War From, All Over Again!!


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Monday, December 8, 2014

Senate CIA 'Torture & Rendition' Report: "will cause violence and deaths"

"will cause violence and deaths", Way Over a Decade Late with Those Concerns!!!

This is all I've been seeing and hearing since reported the, supposedly heavily redacted, report is finally to be released, supposedly, today.

Coming from the extremely complacent media outlets that were more then willing to fully support the FOX speak as this all started, eating them 'freedom fries'. Way to late for those concerns as these actions had started over a decade ago and that blowback was as quickly released, expansion and spread, from as it was with our quick abandoning of the Missions and those sent to Accomplish after 9/11!

Dire warning over pending released of CIA torture report
December 7, 2014 - Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said Sunday.

Rep. Mike Rogers, a Michigan Republican, is regularly briefed on intelligence assessments. He told CNN's "State of the Union" that U.S. intelligence agencies and foreign governments have said privately that the release of the report on CIA interrogations a decade ago will be used by extremists to incite violence that is likely to cost lives. The 480-page report, a summary of a still-classified 6,000 page study, is expected to be made public next week.

"I think this is a terrible idea," Rogers said of the expected release. "Our foreign partners are telling us this will cause violence and deaths...Foreign leaders have approached the government and said, 'You do this, this will cause violence and deaths.' Our own intelligence community has assessed that this will cause violence and deaths."

A U.S. intelligence official, who was not authorized to be quoted discussing classified intelligence assessments, said Congress had been warned "of the heightened potential that the release could stimulate a violent response." read more>>>

Heard also from those, in and out of government, that were more then willing not only to support the extremely illegal acts but to justify over and over again, "we need to do because they work in gathering needed intelligence" ignoring the fact it's known not to!


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We wrote our own Domestic Laws and led on the World stage in writing the International Laws and Condemn those that have broken them since!

The cheney/bush cabal, and all their supporters, gave Carte Blanche not only for it's use by us but because of also to be justifiably used by anyone, like the reports of al Qaeda's using as well as this extended deadly growth from those bush/cheney policies, with full support and justification from conservative lawmakers, ISIL!! They wrote their briefs on with revisionism to justify the legality of the wide ranging use, not just by the CIA but the quick growth very expensive private merc army that quickly became another intelligence gathering arm following no ones laws!!

When policy is discussed and then implemented, especially in governments but also the private sector and individually, these types thoughts of "will cause violence and deaths" are front and center in the possibilities of what may come from implementing!

Just because one thinks they're protected because they're so Saintly, Poser Patriotism, and others are so Evil isn't justification! It only means you've joined them on that level and made it open season across the board! Can't condemn what you're also doing, they know it long before the public, Done In Our Names, is informed and the deadly blowback from had already started!!

* * * Seeds of ISIL Planted By Bush/Cheney and Conservative Congresses * * *

* * * The British Iraq War Inquiry * * *
Released will carry private communications between GWBush and TBlair, like this already released: TB said there was a danger the Tories would see this as their chance to get rid of him … Bush said they would make it clear to the Tories that if they moved to get rid of TB "we will get rid of them".

* * * Iraq War Promoted Terrorism Rather Than Reducing It * * *
24 April 2014 - Britain’s involvement in the Iraq War promoted terrorism rather than reducing it and was a “strategic failure”, according to a major new report which estimated the cost of all UK conflicts since the end of the Cold War.
The Royal United Services Institute said the UK could face a bill of nearly £65bn, once the cost of long-term care for injured veterans was factored in, with most of the money was spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The study, called Wars in Peace, said both conflicts were largely “strategic failures” for the UK, The Guardian reported."

Facts: Matthew Hoh {former Marine and foreign service officer in Afghanistan}: "We spend a trillion dollars a year on national security in this country."
"And when you add up to the Department of Defense, Department of State, CIA, Veterans Affairs, interest on debt, the number that strikes me the most about how much we're committed financially to these wars and to our current policies is we have spent $250 billion already just on interest payments on the debt we've incurred for the Iraq and Afghan wars." 26 September 2014

Bob Herbert "Losing Our Way" : "And then the staggering costs of these wars, which are borne by the taxpayers. I mean, one of the things that was insane was that, as we're at war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Bush administration cut taxes. This has never been done in American history. The idea of cutting taxes while you're going to war is just crazy. I mean, it's madness." Bill 'Moyers and Company': Restoring an America That Has Lost its Way 10 Oct. 2014

Chris Hayes MSNBC: "If you can run a deficit to go to war, you can run a deficit to take care of the people who fought it" In response to Republican opposition to expanding Veterans' benefits on fiscal grounds


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